Bartlein barrels vs krieger barrels 223 forum A . Nov 19, 2011 · George Gardner likes Bartlein barrels. Then, on the Bartlein side, I see offerings of 99% (or more) 5R barrels. Every Krieger AR-15 barrel that I’ve owned has produced 10-shot groups with extreme spreads of less than ¾ MOA. The Ballistic Advantage barrel that I'm really happy with is a 6. 58% were running a 26” barrel, 26% were running a 28” barrel. May 21, 2015 · Dan Lilja makes great barrels but it's hard to beat what Frank White can do with a Krieger or Barty blank. Your comments Re: KREIGER Barrels VS HART Barrels Kreiger is cut rifled and Hart is not. ) match or target barrel will shoot straighter than I can. It is for 20 shots @ 1000 yards, I shot a 200-9X. Some of these are not spun up yet, most are. 5 grendel's. Dec 31, 2011 · 4 vs 5R Bartlein. Some specific questions I have are: LMT 16” stainless barrel accuracy Aug 18, 2021 · A while back on another forum there was a barrel rankings chart,call them Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3. I. 5% off machining on both, 3 barrels save 25% off machining on all barrels. Compass Lake does not make barrel blanks. I have used more Bartleins than anything especially considering the Impact by Stuteville barrels are all Bartlein. 5" and CLE 1:7. I’ve been told of several Brux barrels that were even tighter than . Jun 6, 2019 · I normally use Krieger barrels but have a couple of Lilja barrels. Krieger Barrels has been making premium rifle barrels for over 30 years. These days I think you are pretty safe buying what's available from any of the top barrel manufacturers. You can see the land and groove measurement differences between centerfire and rimfire Mar 10, 2013 · Not to take away from what the finest barrels from Douglas, Krieger and the like can do in properly setup and run once installed, but its tough to beat what CLE can do with a high-end Bartlein blank for only ~$500!! One comment made about so what Bartlein and Krieger own benchrest etc Besides those matches take a look at the European F-Class Championships shot late last year in the U. Very curious to see how it shoots. 223 AR. I shoot with 4 guys running there barrels, and I own 4 of them as well (1 unchambered currently/rimfire barrel) and they have been some of the best barrels I’ve ever seen. 005). Have several Bartlein but never tried a Brux. That would be great if I had not heard specifically from Bartlein that in testing at ELR the bullets shot from the 4 groove vs the 5R exhibit "hop" when hitting transonic". Dave Javascript is required. Lots of little knothole 5-shot groups. Between Douglas and Bartlein my first choice is Barltein. Mar 9, 2018 · I've shot Krieger, Hart, Obermeyer, Blackstar (remember those? They were HARD) and Douglas in service rifle M14s, have a 22" Krieger in 308 from @MikeRTacOps, shot a couple John Holliger PacNor 1:6. Aug 6, 2023 · Basically the title. These two have been the most consistent barrels as far as ammo selection and consistent and small group size. Whether you would like to choose from one of our standard Sporter, Match Taper, Palma profile or straight contours, or Apr 17, 2020 · Big thanks to Keystone Accuracy for doing the barrel work for this review and turning everything around quickly. Here's a picture I just snapped for you of barrel coins from my Bartlein and Krieger . Apr 9, 2014 · I have Krieger, Shilen, Brux, Bartlein, McGown, and this Benchmark brand of barrels all chambered in 6Dasher between 2-guns (LT & HV-Gun). 56 barrels as well as the CLE Bartlein/Krieger barrels. Walther barrels are harder so they might last longer but I'd place my bet on Krieger for accuracy. 7 moa or better. All barrels are dialed in and chambered on a manual lathe, no CNC Jun 14, 2016 · Most will retire a barrel (at least for long line shooting, 600 yds) after 3500-4000 rounds but cut rifled barrels like Krieger will go longer, usually over 5000 anyway. I've had really good results with these, even though it seems Ballistic Advantage isn't a high success rate barrel like Bartlein, etc. The contours shown are for Bartlein barrels. Criterion it will be now, I'll see how it shoots long as some Krieger rubs off on it, I can't go wrong. In your case, you spent the money on a custom action. Krieger has been delivering blanks way way faster, like 1/3 the time. Dec 27, 2023 · I am not familiar with Ace. I’m in the market for a Gucci SPR and can’t decide which route to go. 9% of the time. 22-250, . and that doesnt add anything to your thread our answer your question? Mar 26, 2022 · MW barrels shoot lights fucking out. Terry Cross uses Krieger. Criterion was a spin-off of Krieger at one time - people who learned from John Krieger formed Criterion to satisfy the need for high quality barrels using a faster button process than Krieger's cut process. prob 1/8 or 1/7 wylde. The only other thing I would add is to make sure you get a bench rest or top of the line barrel. Or 4 vs 5r Krieger. May 9, 2020 · Shooting forum Centerfire rifles Steyr Pro Varmint . Jun 6, 2019 · I know I have a Bartlein and a Kreiger for my Surgeon. I don’t shot well enough to tell the difference I’d like to pick up a thinner 308 bore to use as a hunting barrel and it would just be who’s in stock when i go looking. If you want a lighter barrel, buy a Criterion Core or CL hybrid. Lilja's are button-rifled barrels vs the cut-rifled Krieger & Bartlein if that matters to you. I have one Muller, 7T 223, jeez, what a shooter, not a copper fouler either. That said, I've owned some fantastic shooting Bartlein 5R barrels and I would buy more Bartlein if my vendors had more choices in 4-groove. I've shot many MWshooting one on my 22BR right now and it's hammering. 223, . . Please enable javascript before you are allowed to see this page. Got to page 20 before nodding off. I can say this, the barrels that are installed perform exactly the same. 22 (vtex 4-12, bush 3-9) bartlein and krieger barrels are some of the best Krieger Barrels offers a wide variety of standard and custom barrel contours for bolt action rifles as well as AR10, AR15, M1 Garand, M1A/M14 and service rifles. Apr 20, 2024 · 95% of shooters were running 26” to 28” barrels. 750" short gas block journal, and . How Krieger Barrels Are Made (MUST-WATCH video — one of the best we’ve ever featured). Good ammo is more important than which badge on the barrel. Krieger has been very good to me and I will continue to use them primarily for tactical or competition rifles. I own several and all are outstanding accurate and easy to clean barrels. Once the barrels are made with that degree of precision, individual barrel differences will be more important than Kreiger vs. You won't get a better quality or more accurate barrel. Nov 20, 2008 · It was . 22 calibers like . Its really quite amazing to see all that’s involved in the production of cut-rifled barrels. 5mm bartlein 5r both are m24 profile. Jun 27, 2020 · Padom then tested ammo at 100 yards, again using his Krieger rimfire barrel: “To recap, the Krieger shot the best 50-yard results of the barrels tested so far, just barely beating the Bartlein but it was so close you can call the 50-yard results equal (. As far as I have seen Lothar and a Pac-Nor make extremely good polygonal setups including for the AR. David Dec 25, 2023 · Save money when chambering multiple barrels at a time. So if I'm reading you right you're saying bartlein and krieger are on par with each other so far and the shilen were great but required more cleaning vs the other 2. Say like using 855A1 and steel core bullets and ammo. How's barrel do you guys think would do the best for this project. I shot one of their 223/5. Jan 21, 2020 · Krieger is first because they are the most prolific 4-groove with my vendors. just trying to make sure i get the right stuff Dec 20, 2019 · Thank you for the info, savages do seem to shoot pretty good. And I am thinking about using Bartlein this time. In . Krieger have typically run the fastest per caliber for me, but Bartlein and Hawk Hill have always been good barrels. 221FB and it wasn't the funnest thing but it wasn't impossible. If you haven't shot a hawk hill yet, you ought to give it a try. Bartlein. looking $300-400 max for a barrel. Having said all that, I personally am a fan of either Krieger or Bartlein. Oct 4, 2012 · Resurrecting this thread. The best 5 shot group at 100 yards with the Krieger I was able to get so far was this one using Berger 77 OTM bullets: Best 5 shots at 100 yards with the Bartlein so far with Berger 77 OTM bullets: Wanted to let you know that I set another service national record with my current Bartlein. Details on smith, chamber, ammo, and/or shooter comparing the guns with the Muller vs. 00: Qty May 9, 2015 · Now 4340 is better for barrel life and harder bullets. Of course their "shot out" barrels would still be an upgrade for many folks who never shoot for score or over 300 yds. Dec 27, 2021 · I have purchased Krieger barrels that were okay, around 1 moa, nothing to write home about. Any thoughts are much appreciated! Yeah I’ve got a 6mm krieger 4 grove and 6. Jun 4, 2021 · Brux barrels are dimensionally tighter than Bartlein 5R’s. 730" forward of gas block. No particular reason other than I hear raves about Bartlein and they are doing well in shortrange benchrest. I have ran more bartlein steel barrels than any other brand combined. Criterion started with match barrel blanks for bolt action rifles - and these have been highly regarded for a long time. Going with a known top-level barrel maker, like Krieger or Bartlein, makes more sense in this scenario. Rimfire blanks on left, centerfire on right. A #3 bartlein should have a little over 0. 5 Grendel Build-It-Yourself & Custom Builds If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Button Rifling Dec 30, 2012 · I have had a couple of barrels in both Douglas and Bartlein. I've got two Krieger's and one Rock and all of them have been shooters. was founded in 1999 as a division of Krieger Barrels, Inc. If you love big, powerful machines, you’ll enjoy this video. I liked the cut rifling but that is a personl thing and nothing to do with accuacy. Both are good shooters but the Krieger is better. Feb 14, 2017 · For my precision gas rifles I have Craddock, CLE and Proof Research Barrels all of which are single point cut rifled barrels when CLE and Craddock use Bartlein or Krieger blanks. Nov 18, 2014 · Note: Although most of the contours dimensions are the same among all the manufacturers, that might not always be the case. Jan 5, 2019 · Both of those are very heavy barrels, at just over 0. I’ve owned Krieger AR-15 barrels with 1:9” twists and 1:7. 223 barrels. 5mm is a Kreigerbut I honestly do not know. However, my Bartlein stay accurate longer and clean much easier, and I feel a lot more confident with the Barltein barrels. Sep 8, 2023 · The reason they are and the reason top smiths are chambering those barrels are because they are exceptionally made barrels. Your Brux barrels may be operating at a higher pressure than your Bartlein 5R’s. 223 Match 18" SPR barrel, and my 18" stainless Proof 6 ARC shoots better. We can even make an exact copy of your current barrel. I want a 5r 1-8 twist ans ss. Using a rem 700 la bdl and the new manners EH4 with the bdl chassis. 40 years ago, any rifle that would consistently group close to 1 moa was to die for. 219 bore. If I felt the need for that level of accuracy potential in a 10/22, I wouldn't hesitate to but a Bartlein barrel. Dec 1, 2022 · Wilson Combat barrels are advertised as match grade but are made by ER Shaw. Nov 9, 2024 · I've got a bunch of high end ar15 barrels, 2 proof cfw barrels, 4 bartlien barrels, 2 noveske barrels, and a shilen. Aug 29, 2011 · Understand your not bashing but with very little detail coming along with that statement it would lead me to believe that the other 9 positive reviews may be a more accurate take of these barrels. ajd usve too xnmg iln iwtsnig vhd cramh nealm qscpjrxnq vnvgz gybkyku bws vzkzkt mygw